Okay, so do any of you worry about going under the minimum starting load. In the Lyman #47 they list a minimum of 45.0 grains with a 130 Hornaday in a 30-06. In my LoadBook from Midway Hornaday lists 48.0 as minimum. I went with 45.0 because I will be teaching a new shooter as soon as we can cet to the range (snow is butt deep). Sean


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