Alabama Ed, try some TAC with the .250"s I coronographed some out of my little 20" blr and got an honest 2370. Thats what load I'm going to take bear hunting this year. Shoots plenty good to kill a bear over bait. Then I will retire that rifle. I'm too beat up physically to hunt much now. but 30 for 30 beas isn"t a bad record for my little blr81