Suck bullets simply suck and I've long abandoned the 200 Hornady for deer even in the .358 Winchester. Penetration with that bullet is minimal. I've used 200 grain loadings in both cartridges (300WM & Whelen) on numerous animals in excess of a 1000 pounds and the only difference I can see (when using non suck bullets) is that the Whelen pounds me less, but the animals are pounded as hard or harder........
