With the frame and a Talon, you can put whatever you want in the middle. You could repurpose your tent stuff sack for extra storage if you desired and then have fire starting, knives, headlamps, shell inside the talon. The day talon holds a surprising amount of small gear, however it is not enough for gear / optics / cold weather November days where you might be sitting for awhile. The other option, is to just keep a dry sack or pack bag on and compress it. It compresses to nothing meaning it's a 3 or 4 lb pack capable of carrying 4000 - 8000 CI of gear but not being much larger than the frame / talon combination. Myself, I'd probably often repurpose a tent stuff sack or similar for November type day hunting.
