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I heard Tylenol, aspirin, and ibuprofen in large doses can fry your liver and/or kidneys. So please don't use them!!
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An example of metabolism and bioavailability not being equated across species...
PRECAUTIONS: Ivermectin Paste has been formulated specifically for use in horses only. This product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in dogs, may result Lawyers put things like that on labels. It's pretty standard. All you need to know is the ingredients.
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"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”
now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots.... Here you go.... https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/research/publications/index.htmlOhhh stop it! Garbage.
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The 3 (out of 5) of us that took Ivermectin immediately upon feeling symptomatic and then once each day for 5 days thereafter had SIGNIFICANTLY reduced symptoms as compared to the 2 that didn’t take Ivermectin. I know that it’s a very small sample but that is the only sample that I was concerned with. Based upon the fact that we had no adverse side effects from Ivermectin and it seemed to reduce the symptoms for those of us that used it I would not hesitate to use it again. I would definitely prefer that it was available OTC in “human form” but since our FDA is in bed with big Pharma and there’s no money in cheap, effective medications we’re left with 2 choices….don’t take it because it doesn’t carry the blessing of Pharma and the FDA or take it and possibly see a significant reduction of the symptoms of C-19. I don’t see what there is to lose…..assuming one is intelligent enough to take the appropriate amount (dose+frequency) there is no downside. We each must make the best decision for us and that often means not just thinking “outside the box” but acting outside the box. My distrust of our government, big Pharma, Fauci, etc is so strong that their recommendations are virtually worthless to me. Bingo!
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The 3 (out of 5) of us that took Ivermectin immediately upon feeling symptomatic and then once each day for 5 days thereafter had SIGNIFICANTLY reduced symptoms as compared to the 2 that didn’t take Ivermectin. I know that it’s a very small sample but that is the only sample that I was concerned with. Based upon the fact that we had no adverse side effects from Ivermectin and it seemed to reduce the symptoms for those of us that used it I would not hesitate to use it again. I would definitely prefer that it was available OTC in “human form” but since our FDA is in bed with big Pharma and there’s no money in cheap, effective medications we’re left with 2 choices….don’t take it because it doesn’t carry the blessing of Pharma and the FDA or take it and possibly see a significant reduction of the symptoms of C-19. I don’t see what there is to lose…..assuming one is intelligent enough to take the appropriate amount (dose+frequency) there is no downside. We each must make the best decision for us and that often means not just thinking “outside the box” but acting outside the box. My distrust of our government, big Pharma, Fauci, etc is so strong that their recommendations are virtually worthless to me. Small sample, but frequently related. Almost as if there’s a pattern.
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Appreciate battue’s perspective.
I suspect the inert ingredients are better than the inert plastic of intubation.
IMHO.
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As for the carrier I had no problems with Duvet or Bimectin. The injection stuff is so much less nasty. Not spermy at all.
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"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”
now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots.... Drop the mic and walk away Boom....... Haha. Yeah.
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The 3 (out of 5) of us that took Ivermectin immediately upon feeling symptomatic and then once each day for 5 days thereafter had SIGNIFICANTLY reduced symptoms as compared to the 2 that didn’t take Ivermectin. I know that it’s a very small sample but that is the only sample that I was concerned with. Based upon the fact that we had no adverse side effects from Ivermectin and it seemed to reduce the symptoms for those of us that used it I would not hesitate to use it again. I would definitely prefer that it was available OTC in “human form” but since our FDA is in bed with big Pharma and there’s no money in cheap, effective medications we’re left with 2 choices….don’t take it because it doesn’t carry the blessing of Pharma and the FDA or take it and possibly see a significant reduction of the symptoms of C-19. I don’t see what there is to lose…..assuming one is intelligent enough to take the appropriate amount (dose+frequency) there is no downside. We each must make the best decision for us and that often means not just thinking “outside the box” but acting outside the box. My distrust of our government, big Pharma, Fauci, etc is so strong that their recommendations are virtually worthless to me. Bingo! No kidding. Print that paragraph on billboards. I have been taking a weekly dose as a preventive measure for weeks now. My ballz have not turned green.
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Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure! Correct...ivermectin is a relatively safe drug.....However daily use has no verification,,,,Big Pharma by the way, distributes million of doses yearly to impoverished countries free of charge...Dem pricks... However, facts are humans sucking down a concentrated horse paste has potential issues with regards dosage and inert ingredients contained in the paste. Those ingredients may or may not alter bioavailability in humans....making it plus or minus potent....Those ingredients may or may not interact adversely with other human diseases or blood chemical imbalances. None know....because human studies are based on standard formulations of tablets or liquid. Odd that some think they are being guinea pigs with the vaccine....but readily advocate others should glub down a medication fromulated for horses. Covid, the vaccine and ivermectin have been an interesting look into the how people react.... Dosage is not a problem the plunger is marked in 50 pound increments. But the carrier may not be something used or tested on humans. Ivermectin is ivermectin I pretty certain the carrier in the 1% sterile is simply propylene glycol.
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I find the durvet apple stuff is down right tasty.
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Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure! Correct...ivermectin is a relatively safe drug.....However daily use has no verification,,,,Big Pharma by the way, distributes million of doses yearly to impoverished countries free of charge...Dem pricks... However, facts are humans sucking down a concentrated horse paste has potential issues with regards dosage and inert ingredients contained in the paste. Those ingredients may or may not alter bioavailability in humans....making it plus or minus potent....Those ingredients may or mayl not interact adversely with other human diseases or blood chemical imbalances. None know....because human studies are based on standard formulations of tablets or liquid. Odd that some think they are being guinea pigs with the vaccine....but readily advocate others should glub down a medication fromulated for horses. Covid, the vaccine and ivermectin have been an interesting look into the how people react.... Dosage is not a problem the plunger is marked in 50 pound increments. But the carrier may not be something used or tested on humans. Ivermectin is ivermectin I pretty certain the carrier in the 1% sterile is simply propylene glycol. Like grandpa said, "anything in moderation." LOL
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I find the durvet apple stuff is down right tasty. Smoothie base worthy.
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An example of metabolism and bioavailability not being equated across species...
PRECAUTIONS: Ivermectin Paste has been formulated specifically for use in horses only. This product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in dogs, may result Lawyers put things like that on labels. It's pretty standard. All you need to know is the ingredients. The Vets disagree: “Additionally, certain dogs are genetically hypersensitive to the medication. In these dogs, ivermectin can pass directly to the brain and be toxic or even lethal. Sensitivity to the drug can also be seen in dogs or puppies that have overdosed on a similar medication in the past. A genetic sensitivity to ivermectin can be seen in several breeds, but is more commonly seen in the following breeds: Collie Old English sheepdog Shetland sheepdog (Sheltie) Australian shepherd German shepherd Longhaired whippet Silken windhound Border collie Dogs of mixed breeds that include herding breeds This genetic sensitivity is due to a mutation in what is called the MDR1 gene. This mutant gene may make the dog more sensitive to several other medications as well. Not all individual dogs in the breeds listed above carry the mutant gene. The only way to know if an individual dog has the mutant MDR1 gene is through testing. To do the test, cells are scraped from the inside of the dog’s cheek and sent to a laboratory for genetic testing. Talk to your veterinarian if you are interested in having your dog tested.”
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Why are we talking about dogs?
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Why are we talking about dogs? Man's best friend? Duhhh.
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"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”
now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots.... You mean like turning people into magnets? Alex Jones is way ahead of the FDA.
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Metan Why are we talking about dogs? Possible metabolism and bioavailability differences across species.. horses vs humans In this case it doesn’t seem to be a short term issue…
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An example of metabolism and bioavailability not being equated across species...
PRECAUTIONS: Ivermectin Paste has been formulated specifically for use in horses only. This product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in dogs, may result Lawyers put things like that on labels. It's pretty standard. All you need to know is the ingredients. The Vets disagree: “Additionally, certain dogs are genetically hypersensitive to the medication. In these dogs, ivermectin can pass directly to the brain and be toxic or even lethal. Sensitivity to the drug can also be seen in dogs or puppies that have overdosed on a similar medication in the past. A genetic sensitivity to ivermectin can be seen in several breeds, but is more commonly seen in the following breeds: Collie Old English sheepdog Shetland sheepdog (Sheltie) Australian shepherd German shepherd Longhaired whippet Silken windhound Border collie Dogs of mixed breeds that include herding breeds This genetic sensitivity is due to a mutation in what is called the MDR1 gene. This mutant gene may make the dog more sensitive to several other medications as well. Not all individual dogs in the breeds listed above carry the mutant gene. The only way to know if an individual dog has the mutant MDR1 gene is through testing. To do the test, cells are scraped from the inside of the dog’s cheek and sent to a laboratory for genetic testing. Talk to your veterinarian if you are interested in having your dog tested.” Vet taught us in one of the classes I took in college to be careful with horse wormer and not give it to the dog because it could kill them stone dead. Pretty sure it was ivermectin he was talking about, but it's been a long time ago now.
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