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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
John, we have a turboprop sky-diving plane that operates from our nearby airport. It is clearly audible even when it's at drop altitude which I'd guess is some 15,000' AGL. But that aircraft is always at max power and climbing until immediately before the jump, so it's certainly louder than it would be with the power and the prop in cruise.

They are quiet, especially with trees and terrain.

I have worked with them operating as SEATs. Single engine air tankers.


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Just noticed this thread. My best friend of over 60yrs used to work out with Leland Snow in Wichita Falls. Tx. Beside having a common interest in their health, my buddy was a retired engineering designer at Collins Radio-Rockwell International.
One of my nephews just took over the engineering dept. at Airtractor. My niece said no to living in Olney, so they are in the big metropolis of Graham.

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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Neither of us. Jorge is opining based on his Navy life, and I on my USAF one. He doesn't see a need for this specialized plane, and I do. That doesn't make either of us wrong.

Actually, if one goes back and read all my posts, it's far from a disagreement. You and Load Clear presented some valid points and I said as much. For LIC the warfare anyway


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Originally Posted by Sharpsman
A new 802 Air Tractor today is $2,000,000 flat with no accessories!

Dumb idea!

A load of #1 buckshot would bring one down!!


No Sir, they will be an armored version. Only up to the 7.62 though. The new L3 version has beefed up wings to carry a heavier load. Ken said they need 1700ft of rough dirt runway to take off fully loaded and 1200ft to land.

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Yeah....we'll see how all that 'beefing up' s hit works out at the final count!!


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Originally Posted by horse1
I've watched crop-dusters from the highways almost daily for the last 2wks or so. They sure can turn, climb, and descend in a heck of a hurry.
Farmer friend, became a crop duster a few weeks ago. Bought a turbo powered plane.

Seems he banked it too sharp making a turn while crop dusting, the plane evidently lost lift, slipped sideways onto an I-49 off ramp where he died. Inexperience for sure.

Tragic

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Originally Posted by Sharpsman
Yeah....we'll see how all that 'beefing up' s hit works out at the final count!!


My nephew mentioned that he needed somebody to sweep the floors. Are you qualified, if so I'll put a word in for you.

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My bud crashed his Air Tractor 502.

The one in the link is pretty cool.

Check out the Thrush 510G that Eric Prince had converted for close support military use in Sudan.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
My bud crashed his Air Tractor 502.

The one in the link is pretty cool.

Check out the Thrush 510G that Eric Prince had converted for close support military use in Sudan.

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I hope he wasn't seriously injured.

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The defoliation tactic worked well in Vietnam.
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Originally Posted by Sharpsman
Yeah....we'll see how all that 'beefing up' s hit works out at the final count!!
Probably better than the Cessna O2 Rocky flew so many missions in.

It looks good to me for the intended role. But if my butt was at the controls, I might wish for two engines.


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Originally Posted by butchlambert1
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
My bud crashed his Air Tractor 502.

The one in the link is pretty cool.

Check out the Thrush 510G that Eric Prince had converted for close support military use in Sudan.

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I hope he wasn't seriously injured.
Unfortunately he was killed.

Real shock.

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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Neither of us. Jorge is opining based on his Navy life, and I on my USAF one. He doesn't see a need for this specialized plane, and I do. That doesn't make either of us wrong.

Actually, if one goes back and read all my posts, it's far from a disagreement. You and Load Clear presented some valid points and I said as much. For LIC the warfare anyway

I'm glad you occasionally admit you don't know WTF you're opining about after you have your ass handed to you.

If you could do that more often you might be of value. To someone.


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Anyone who was anyone diving on Okinawa from 85-88 knew who I was and the dive store I worked, Ed's Pro Dive.
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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Authority and experience, here? The problem is not that they’re ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn’t so.

LOL

You are a fugking clown.


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Anyone who was anyone diving on Okinawa from 85-88 knew who I was and the dive store I worked, Ed's Pro Dive.
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Originally Posted by butchlambert1
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Yeah....we'll see how all that 'beefing up' s hit works out at the final count!!


My nephew mentioned that he needed somebody to sweep the floors. Are you qualified, if so I'll put a word in for you.

Butch!!!

Tell him there's a pretty fair old millwright/fabricator/floor sweeper coming available next year

Old,fat, stove up, and stubborn.

Counting on the stubborn part to keep me going til next year.

I'd be proud to sweep floors for such a place...


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Bugs in Hunter's cocao crops?


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Originally Posted by johnw
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Originally Posted by Sharpsman
Yeah....we'll see how all that 'beefing up' s hit works out at the final count!!


My nephew mentioned that he needed somebody to sweep the floors. Are you qualified, if so I'll put a word in for you.

Butch!!!

Tell him there's a pretty fair old millwright/fabricator/floor sweeper coming available next year

Old,fat, stove up, and stubborn.

Counting on the stubborn part to keep me going til next year.

I'd be proud to sweep floors for such a place...



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Anyone who thinks these aren't intended to be used within the US is truly deluding themselves.

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