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Do you want a picture of a brand new starline? The forum software is old here, I would have to send it to my computer resize it, and then post. It won't accept pics from a phone. I posted that a week ago.
I also feel like it is a waste of time with some here.
Reloading manuals talk about small base sizing dies. And some act like it is made up because they never did it. I never did it either, until I bought starline. I suspect it is a premium thicker brass. I would not be surprised if I bought other premium brass I encountered this too. I meant of the fired that had primer issues and stuff. You know, what you'd take to a gunsmith when you asked them about it. But no worries... I'm sure you'll figure it out on your own. The gunsmith will be called an idiot too. And to think, this cat reloads and owns firearms. Talk about a dangerous combination. I tried to ask questions and help but only to be called an idiot. I think that's like the pot calling the kettle black. I sincerely doubt he does reload or own firearms, because with every post he sounds more and more like Elkslayer and Glockdoofus, and Slavek, and half a dozen other Maser sock puppets.. Except maybe he still owns those airsofts he proudly displayed pics of back when he was doing diaper and bottle pics. But hell! It has been fun playing. If it is not Maser, someone is doing a very great job or duplicating his performances.
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When I reloaded for my 760's I used small based dies. I tried standard dies and had chambering issues
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When I reloaded for my 760's I used small based dies. I tried standard dies and had chambering issues I'm in trouble now.
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When I reloaded for my 760's I used small based dies. I tried standard dies and had chambering issues Discussing this on another forum, and someone said that same thing. Manual mentions for a reason. One of these days I should try it. All the other components was the same, except the brand of brass. Mic in a few spots I came up with .004 difference. Not sure if that would actually be enough. What I have wanted to do for awhile is have a dedicated brass for this pump. I carry extra rounds in my bag, and this gun shoots different bullets than others. I sharpie them, but different brass would make it easier. I may use the small base dies on star line, or maybe try winchester. I've got a lot of remington too
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[qu e. My mistake wrong person.
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[q If you had ever killed any game, you would realize there is no need to worry over a second shot after properly hitting a deer with a 165 gr ballistic tip from a 30-06. They either collapse on the spot with a CNS hit. Or they grunt, hump up in the middle, and dash 40 to 50 yds before falling over. I have never put more than one bullet into a deer. e. I've shot deer in 3 foot deep snow. It slows them down enough to shoot again. I just believe you should rack another one to be ready. Not sure the point in arguing this. Not sure the point of most of your posts, other than you want to ramble on.
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I've shot many deer more than once. Even when using a 30-06. I shoot until they are off their feet or out of sight.
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While I agree they typically go down or run so fast, you don't have time to shoot again, I have had a chance a handful of times. But I am not comparing myself to Carlos Hathcock.
The interesting one to see, was the 3 feet deep snow. We got 40+ inches days before the season opened. I missed the second shot. But it was like watching it drown in snow.
People could not get into many camps.
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My phone doesn't have app to resize. Most forums don't need it. I would have to send to computer, resize and post or use a hosting site. Which I don't have. The pic above is a link to another site.
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When I reloaded for my 760's I used small based dies. I tried standard dies and had chambering issues Did it help with split necks?
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My phone doesn't have app to resize. Most forums don't need it. I would have to send to computer, resize and post or use a hosting site. Which I don't have. The pic above is a link to another site. Link to another site yet has it as being quoted from here?? Got it.
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I am going to have to go buy one just to find out This post confuses me. The OP talks about having a 760 in opening post then we say we need to buy one to see if brass gets hot. Can someone else line me out??
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Starline replied back asking about if I bumped the shoulder back causing it to go to far forward. I suppose it is to far forward if if the primers dent but don't go off. I asked them if need to set my dies up just for their brass. They have not got back.
I really don't feel like setting my dies up just for one rifle.
I'll probably buy a small base die, after reading enough people using them, to see how it goes. I may buy brass I don't currently have in this caliber to make it easier to seperate. Not sure if it will be starline or not. I may save that for other projects.
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[ Link to another site yet has it as being quoted from here?? Got it. As I wrote, but I am getting used to repeating myself with you, that pic with the dead rodents is from a file sharing site. I don't have an account with one. Most forums these days resize for you. It was common years ago to need to resize on computer. I constantly repeat myself for you. I don't know if you have dementia, ignorant, or just a [bleep] disturber. Go quote the the same pic, you will see the pic is a website. Normally I'd like to educate someone, but I really think you are just an _______. So I am an idiot for trying.
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If your die doesn’t push the shoulder back far enough to make the once fired brass have excessive headspace and misfire it can’t push the shoulder of the Starline brass back any further.
Get out a reloading manual and read the chapter on sizing brass to fit your chamber. I don’t think you have as good a grasp on this as you think you do.
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[ Link to another site yet has it as being quoted from here?? Got it. As I wrote, but I am getting used to repeating myself with you, that pic with the dead rodents is from a file sharing site. I don't have an account with one. Most forums these days resize for you. It was common years ago to need to resize on computer. I constantly repeat myself for you. I don't know if you have dementia, ignorant, or just a [bleep] disturber. Go quote the the same pic, you will see the pic is a website. Normally I'd like to educate someone, but I really think you are just an _______. So I am an idiot for trying. Don't have to have an account, 90% that post pics here probably dont, but keep trying. The link is from imgur, the site he used to post the pic here. The quote is still from here.
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anytime you start squeezing brass down it pushes up. unless your dye is screwed down far enough to limit the shoulder it will push up in the shoulder region. that's why properly adjusted dies always squeeze up and make the neck longer and that is why the trimming factor is in effect... if this statement goes above your head you need to quit reloading and start reading and understanding a lot more
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I don’t think you have as good a grasp on this as you think you do. Never claimed to. But the question I raise is why won't starline work on the same dies remington does. That is a good question, to me. Been reloading for awhile, but have not advanced to annealing or bumping shoulder. Never needed to, for what I do. But I am just simple handloader.
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I don’t think you have as good a grasp on this as you think you do. Never claimed to. But the question I raise is why won't starline work on the same dies remington does. That is a good question, to me. Been reloading for awhile, but have not advanced to annealing or bumping shoulder. Never needed to, for what I do. But I am just simple handloader. Most likely bumping the shoulder if you're full length sizing and die is set up properly.
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If your die doesn’t push the shoulder back far enough to make the once fired brass have excessive headspace and misfire it can’t push the shoulder of the Starline brass back any further.
Get out a reloading manual and read the chapter on sizing brass to fit your chamber. I don’t think you have as good a grasp on this as you think you do. My thoughts on the Starline brass are possibly too deep of a primer pocket. Pin just pushing the primer in once it hits it and not igniting it. Could be wrong there too. Could be a die set up issue as well. Nothing has been said about the split necks which were any issue in the OP. Split necks, misfires and possibly hard chambering in the pump lead me to think of headspace issues or some other bolt to chamber issue.
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