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that's why i can't work by the hr, I'd
never make any money, when i did work by the hr for a yr or when i was younger, i made my employer chits loads of money because i still worked like i would if i was getting paid by the job.

Not speaking for everybody, but for me, I get pissed about government "workers" because they're doing a job I don't care if it gets done, but I'm paying for anyway. If someone else needs a plumber or electrician, and pay for it themselves, I don't care what they charge.

I've never needed a tradesman to do anything around my house. The information for almost everything is available, and very few jobs require expensive tools that will only be used once. So, if I can do it, and the tools cost less than the labor rate, I'm doing it myself.

It's funny you feel that way. I work for the VA so I assume you don't care if we take care of veterans or not. Prior to the VA, I was a DA civilian taking care of active duty soldiers and their dependents. I'll assume you care the same for them. Before that I was active duty. Paid by the federal government. Them too?

It's funny you feel that way. I'm a disabled vet. I tried the VA. I pay for my own doctor now.

But in the context of the post I was replying to, he spoke of people complaining about how much govt "workers" make. I've never heard of anyone complaining about service members being overpaid. Except for that malcontent stripbuck something-or-other, and maybe a few others.

That's why I used quotes around workers. Those govt employees who are doing jobs that I don't care about, but I'm forced to pay for. If it were a job I cared about getting done, I would do it myself.

That's a big part of the 80 dollars.

As a Plumber, I wish I could afford a fishing charter in Alaska,

Frickkers are pricy.

im and electrician welder with nuclear structural certifications, as well as unlimited unescorted nuclear access (everywhere including the control room) I make 42.50/hr on the check, plus 16.18/hr into my retirement, as well as my healthcare paid for by the contractor. they charge 150/hr for me to be there because of he certs and quals that I posses. Its a damn good living, Id be fine with 30/hr on the check, i really could care less about that, as I can live just fine on 28-30/hr. But ill gut someone to keep the retirement. Im 30 and my favortie past time is looking at my fidelity account :-D. Trades are good and bad, very up and down. I only worked 8mos this year, but due to my wage i still made a middle class living.

Your company seems like they are billing you at a super low rate compared to what you make.

We bill more than $250/hour for a guy from the shop (a tacker) to go out to the plant and tack on a steel plate they broke during unloading and he might make $15-$20/hour and his biggest deal is he can pass a drug test and as a TWIC card lol.

doesnt everyone have a twic card ? lol Maybe thy charge more but i was told at one time it was 150/hr. for me to just be there (lot of standby). you'd be suprised how many people cant pass a drug test these days. Absolutely rediculous.

I don't have a TWIC card even tho it's required now. When I found out that TWIC card holders can escort up to 4 non holders I just started asking for someone to sign the escort sheet.

I'm not suprised how many people can't pass a drug test. The largest industry here is chemical plants and refineries and the associated contractors. The number one thing that keeps people from having a decent to great job is passing a drug test.

A self employed tradesman has to pay all expenses insurance and such.. 80/ hr is actually pretty reasonable.. You could no doubt get an electrition for 15/hr and your house would probbly burn down..

id love to find a decent job down south lol, but everyone i check on wants to pay me 18/hr with no benefits. The only good think about illinois is the money i make vs Cost of living. I literally HATE everything else about this state.

The shop next to ours has nuclear welders for the pipe side of the company. I'm not sure what they pay.

Our shop patys more than the average for the region I believe (from what the boss says, what the office guys make, and the fact that the average length of time at work there is currently 22 years and I'm the youngest at age 43 in the office), but it comes mostly from the time frame not the actual work. We're basically open 24/7 and can do it RIGHT NOW. Last week we even looked into have some plate cut in Michigan so it could fit onto a charter airplane to fly to us so we could start that day. Instead we hired a semi with 3 drivers to drive straight thru to the next day.

I mentioned it earlier in the thread but our company figures it cost them 2.5x a guys wage just to work here in the shop.

$80/hr is cheap for an electrician. In Anchorage, I was billed out at $120, and none of my customers complained. But yes, the trades are a good place to be right now.

A good general rule of thumb (at least for skilled trades), is that the employee only makes about 30% of what the client pays.

I didn't see anything on that list that I pay for now .....

"How am I going to know how to stock my doctorin van?"

All you need is about 12 more years of schooling.

as an inspector I don't make as much as the plumbers around here.

But I've yet to find a charter I couldn't afford. Probably are a lot out there though. But can always afford a trip or two here and there.

SALARY TABLE 2012-General Schedule for Federal Employees

http://archive.opm.gov/oca/12tables/html/gs.asp

GS- 4/5 usually requires college degree (B.A. or B.S.)
GS- 7/9 usually requires a master degree or being hired at GS 5 and promoted to 7 or hired at a GS-7 with years of experience and a master's degree (or a Ph.D.)

Some positions are special classifications - physicians, public health,attorneys, some engineers, scientists and information technology specialists etc.

Raises are only after three years of service, are only every other year, and only if by merit (i.e performance based)and the federal budget allows for salary adjustments (salaries were frozen from 2010 through 2013)

Promotions are also merit based and are limited and most positions have a ceiling on the GS rating for the position based on experience,required skills, knowledge, and ability (and maybe attitude)usually position descriptions will either top-out at GS-10 or GS-12

Above Grade 14 are rare and approved in Washington

Grade 16 basically Washington D.C. based usually require Senate Confirmation to be hired

Not even close to a logical comparison. Government workers produce absolutely nothing of real economic value. They are a drain on the economy SQUARED: first in the fact that they're paid w/ tax dollars, and then in the fact that by government's nature, their "job" is to impede or stop productive economic activity.