Originally Posted by Bperdue21
I already have a g19.



Nothing wrong with that for a general purpose outdoors sidearm.

I carry a Glock 17 in the outdoors quite often. If you practice at 2-3 yards you can work out your 'snake hold'.

I carry 147gr XTPs, handloaded to about 1100 fps.

Sure the 9mm has it's limitations, and I have other choices too. I just like the Glock 17.