msinc, I use Butches Bore Shine, have for years. I typically run patches saturated with Buches down the bore till all visible powder residue is absent from patch. I swab back and forth and leave solvent in the bore for at least 10 minutes, then check for signs of copper, (Blue on patch) If any trace is noticed, I run three solvent patches through bore then let sit another 10 minutes. I repeat till I see no evidence of copper or very light stained patches. I then run a couple patches of Kroil through bore to remove solvent, followed by a dry patch to push out Kroil. Been cleaning like this for years and have never had a rifle give me this much trouble. I usually send them down the road if they are to finicky.

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