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Re: Why the .45 ACP "sucks" for self defense Mannlicher #11730499 01/11/17
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OP GunGeek Campfire Ranger Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,663 NW Nevada	Originally Posted by Mannlicher I don't believe for a moment, that a 230 grain .45 HP sucks for defense purposes (or for offence either) End of discussion. I have always considered it the benchmark for self defense performance. No it's not perfect, but it ain't far from it either.

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