I use one for my long range hunting rig with 162 eldm. Used a long action and had it throated out long so I could use a detachable mag and not have seat them deep in the case. My load is 45.4 grains of H350 for about 2740fps. It's taken 9 animals ranging from 75-550 yards. Only 1 has taken a step and bullets have exited on all with half fist sized holes in the ribs. I don't like allot of recoil and at this speed I don't have to use a brake and can see impacts