I'll add to m post above that my red balls hav long since been discontinued so I'll never be able to replace them . I do however have 3 pr of the beans 2 low cut and1 pr of 6" boots. I like them a lot and given the choice I would spend the extra to get the beans or maybe a pair of schnees if you want the cleated sole and plan on wearing the boots to hunt in. My pull ones I wear to the Mail box etc. These boots last a long time so you amortize the extra cost it really is peanuts.