I agree, the chain lug soles give very little traction in snow and mud and I don't recommend them for hunting. On the other hand, I have a pair of the felt lined ones (not sure if they still make that one) with the bobbed sole, and they are very good..still not quite warm enough for stand hunting, but then, I tend to get cold feet. I got a pair of Lacross big burlys with 1000gm insulation for Newfoundland and they were terrific for the wet bogs..hard to beat Bean customer service as others have noted..
