Jeff, a 475 Linebaugh will put a Bear on the ground imediately in my experience.

I dropped the one on the left along with the Moose on the left with the 475 Linebaugh and hard cast. The came in on the Moose kill we were working on and he didn't care that we were thier. The 475 dropped him in gramatioc fashion

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