No arguments from me, except I use 168 grainers (TSX) and the extra 3 grains of bullet weight makes them penetrate better.
Haven't shot a deer yet with a 168 TSX in .308 cal but shot some elk and all went right through it leaving a quarter size hole on exit of ribs. Don't much shoot deer anymore, developed a hate for the meat because we ate them all our lives. There like fricken rabbits around here, it's like no challenge anymore. Probably same where you live.
