All my bull elk have been killed with hand loads.But reports from friends who have used factory ammo is that the factory 180's work well.One pair, a father and son, shot about everything here and in Africa,and the father in India,with various 300 magnums and used only factory ammo.

Gotta figure we have ,collectively,over 100 years of 180 gr-300 magnum "experience" today on BG animals world wide. I would bet the factory ammo makers have learned what it takes to make good game bullets for the 300's.

I'd rather have my hand loads in 300 Winchester but for elk would not worry a whole lot with the choices we have in factory ammo today.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.