I killed my first deer with a Ruger 77 in 270.Dad had two 77s in 270,and now I still have both,but I honestly don't know which one I shot it with.It was the first year that shooting does became legal here.I was 12. .The first high power rifle I got for my self was an old semi-sporterized Eddystone 17.It was a good gun,and took it's share of deer,but wasn't much to look at.