E, you are like reasoning with an 80 year old man, so set in your ways you fail to grasp simple concepts. It gets old arguing with you but when I feel as strongly about something as I do here I'm not going to just sit on the sidelines and listen you your biased rant. Fact is you haven't ever tested some of the Euro's against Leupold, your statements stem from an outdated book you read. You keep saying the Euro's aren't brighter, well that is a flat out lie, why don't you prove it to us if you believe it???

What about Bino's, surely the Euro's do alright on these don't they? I believe you own some.

Here are a few things for you to ponder before you spout off again . . .

Most of my hunting rifles wear Leupolds, for the money they are tough to beat. I do own a Swaro, I bought it at a Leupold price. I don't and have no plans to buy 1,000 dollar scopes, to me it's not worth it. But I have tested a number of them and they ARE BRIGHTER than Leupolds - that is my only point that you can't get through your thick skull.