Amazing that folks suggest rifles for "kids" that they wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.....
Having taught quite a few kids, boys and girls, and having them shoot every rifle/combo thus far mentioned, there is a recipe that works and a bunch that fail consistently.
Travis is a meany, however he is correct- you need a 223. The 223 is a certifiable murderer with good bullets because it promotes fun, which promotes practice which promotes dead things.. Hitting and killing animals is about round count (away from the bench). Round count is about fun. Solid 223's setup right are the funnest guns around and ammo is cheap.
Recoil bothers them soo much more than it does adult males. What's worse is to "make daddy proud" most try to fight through it, which drops the fun meter, which drops the round count, which drops hiring. When put in an environment where they can freely shoot at will any/all guns and cartridges lay'd before them it's quickly apparent that good setup 233 bolt guns and AR15's get smoldering barrels while every other cartridge isn't touched but once. Bigger than 223, 243's are the next thing and get shot 10-1 over any 260/7-08/308. The 243 with good bullets is a MONSTER and will kill every animal in NA without issue.
High end is a Kimber Montana in 223, but you've expressed concern over price, so Tikka T3 are awesome shooters and children seem to prefer them as much or more in my experience. Most find it easier to load the mags, than top loading an internal. That's important because the only kids that I have been around that develop a life long true passion for shooting and hunting all had things in common- namely that they were encouraged to do everything themselves (and were able) without a parent or mentor just handing them a rifle and saying "shoot that one".
If both the Kimber at around $1k and the Tikka at $600 are too much, than the Ruger Compact All Weather is where I'd land. Those rifles have proven to do well, they're sized appropriately, are lightweight, typically quite accurate, and a bunch of fun at less than $400.
Top it with a straight 6x Leupold or SWFA SS. Kids REALLY get into dialing turrets and ringing steel or popping balloons at 400-500 yards.
In closing, for shooting and deer/antelopes/etc I'd be in Montana/Tikka/ RAR all weather compact mode in 223 with a SWFA SS 6x. They will wear the barrel out, and more than likely you will too.
When ready for elk an identical setup in 243.
Form,
My eight year old handled and operated some 12 different rifles I had. Savage, Marlin, Ruger, Zastava, Remington, and Tikka.
Her final analysis was the Tikka T3 was by far her favorite.
She is now the proud owner of an 8 twist 223 Tikka Superlite.
I'm thinking about lopping 2" off the barrel and 2-3" off the stock. The kiddo is only 8 and I'd like to get her started on the 223 pretty soon.
To date she's only worked with her Davey Crocket 22 and has run several thousand rounds a year through it starting at the age of 3.
Do you have any recommendations on getting the T3 more user friendly as far as the stock is concerned.
I've never owned a SS 6X42. How is the eyebox compared to the leupold? All my SS have been 10X42s.
As far as safeties go I've seen so many rifles go off that were on safety growing up Ive lost all confidence in the mechanism.
I've taught my daughter for years to only chamber a round when she's ready to pull the trigger. I also hunt with an empty chamber and only chamber a round when I see something I want to shoot at.
A good friends rifle went off while on safety and fired a 30/06 165 grainer several inches from my head once. I generally hunt alone now as other folks walking around me with a loaded round is a bit nerve racking.
Its a bit different and I know its different strokes for different folks.
Thanks
Shod
