Jimmy,I had the 2.5-10X42 ERi with the 4a reticle. The cross hair portion was very thin with a fairly large dot in the center. I would guess the dot was slightly more than 1 MOA. It was not a heavy black dot,but more of a grey color. The illumination is not day light bright but excels in low light. I thought the dot was too large for real precision long range shooting. It would be fine for hunting. You could leave the ill on and if you couldn't see the dot because of poor light then the dot would surly be visible with illumination.

I like the Leica would get low enough in low light not to mess with your night vision even in the darkest conditions. I did not like the tunneling I had with the diopter adjusted for my eyes. I did not like the excessively blurry edges on low power. It was a very nice scope for hunting in low light. It is possible that I expected more for the price. It just didn't wow me for the price compared to other lower priced optics.