I had Doug send me the R1 3-12 x 56, with illumination. The illumination was not as refined as you see on others, the cross wires were thicker than most. I contacted Meopta for a list of reticle subtentions and they were indeed in the 2 MOA range but I forget the magnification I was using, my recollection was that it was thicker than I wanted to use. Now that being said you could if there was any light at all you could still see the reticle, I was "seeing stuff" capable of being shot in the 25-50 yard range well after legal shooting time. I returned it and bought Zeiss victory he had in stock instead, it was more of what I was looking for. Conclusion: check all the specifications before you buy, some may be good and others not to your best interest.
