My first elk hunt -- Idaho - Nez Pierce Pass area - 308 Rem 600 with K4 Weaver, hand-loaded 180 grain Speer bullets, forget the powder, but probably H4895. Poo hoo'd by the other hunters who said their 7mm RM's could shoot across the canyon. Mine was limited to 100 yards. I think the canyon width was >> 500 yards...

I prefer classic.
Semper Fi
I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally