Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Knowing how to use a reticle to range, and that range being even remotely close enough to be consistent enough past 300’ish meters- are two completely separate things.


Milling live targets that vary in size, presentation, and angle is nowhere near milling an E-Type. Just as with humans, the range practice of known, unchanging target size gives vastly unrealistic expectations of ability in the field on real targets, that are an unknown size, and aren’t facing perpendicular.


I’ve had instructors from every single military sniper school/course and national level competitors and not one has been able to consistently mil deer, elk, antelope, etc. accurately enough past 350-400 yards to be within 25 meters consistently. Not one.

Agreed. A good skill to have and understand, but of very limited practicality in the real world, due to a lack of resolving precision when measuring the object against the reticle (a misjudgement of 0.1 MRAD matters), as well as excessive variation in actual visible target size. It’s also often impractical to get into a solid enough position for long enough to measure the target with the reticle, with the degree of precision necessary- simple prone off a ruck is insufficient for anything beyond a few hundred meters on a deer/elk chest sized target.

A very good last, last resort, but a poor substitute for a capable LRF.