The comment re: birdwatcher forum reviews is very relevant. Those folks know and use good glass. Several years ago, a birder friend of my wife recommended Brunton Echo 8x42s as an exceptional value. I bought her a pair and later bought myself a pair at a deep discount when they were replaced by a newer model. I have used them for 10+ years and only recently upgraded to Leicas. Another bino that I considered was the new Burris Signature HD. Mule Deer reviewed them in RLN and a friend of mine bought a pair. Not sure if the Leica is that much better than the Signature HD, but that’s what I bought from Doug. There is so much good glass out there it is sometimes hard to choose. Happy Trails

PS: buy the best. Your kids will appreciate it at the estate sale

Last edited by WAM; 12/06/18.

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