I have an older 4X Leupold on my Savage 99 in (gasp) .243. If I can see it in the woods I can kill it. Many would say I need at least a 3x9x42 to even start hunting with a .243, but the variable scopes I had didn't work well on my 99. The eye relief was just wrong for me. I stuck a 4X on it just to see how the eye relief would be, and it stayed there. I don't feel a bit "under scoped" in the dense woods I hunt. I don't need to be able to see Alpha Centauri in the Kentucky hardwoods and saw briars.