I think there's a good lesson here. Between Jordan and David's discussion, I have a little better understanding of how to explain trajectory to someone who doesn't understand what their bullet is doing when it leaves the muzzle.

When someone uses the word "rise", they may not have in mind what I do. I'll better most people understand the curve of the trajectory better than they do the relationship between barrel and scope.

But then again, there's a few guys I know who have 7mags that shoot "flat out to 500 yards", grin.