With modern steel for both of these actions, any long discussion is beating a dead mule. My Model 71s in 348 Ackley and 450 Alaskan are original pre-war rifles and they
will take on anything in North America or Canada. Its accuracy and intended game that count.
First bull elk was shot decades ago near Mt Evans with an original 1895 in .405 WCF.
Heck-its the rifles not comparing them that counts. Ben Lilly ran all over NM, Az -CO and old Mexico with a Winchester 1886 nickle steel barrel in 33 WCF. He killed more
grizzlies and mountain lions than any modern hunter or guide has in a lifetime. He hunted on foot with hounds and ran bears and cats into the ground.
It is known that along the Mogollon Rim, Lilly wore out a set of boots about every two months.This occurred in the early 1900s.
As Elmer Keith pointed out-its the man behind the rifle that counts. That and the guts to face down bears at spitting range with a 33 WCF in a 1886 Winchester.
