My 2 brother in laws have no contact with their children or grandchildren...historically, there was no abuse, simply neglect. They were always "too busy" for children. I suspect they are lonely in their old age now, they are on the phone to my wife a lot, but it's too late for their kids, they burned their bridges long ago. My opinion is, kids require an investment of the most precious commodity of all, your time and patience.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.