Originally Posted by JakeBlues
Considering that the first wave of shots are going to the oldest and sickest people in the country, how do we know the same number wouldn't have died anyway? Not taking a position on the vaccine, just looking at the demographics in question.

I think that someone with investments in the vaccine might have told you that since you don't watch CNN.
Did you listen to or read any of the VAERS reports?
Many of them were filled out with clear bias.
Then you come across those fragile old fifty some year olds. The twenty year old was doubtless frail. Could've keeled over any time.