I have a Remington 11-87 camo 3 1/2" Shurshot stock with an EO Tech on it and just inherited from my father a camo 3 1/2" Browning Gold with Bushnell scope. I've killed turkeys over 50 yards with both these guns using 3 1/2" Mag Blend. I kill most of my turkeys in cut cornfields, ain't nothing in the way.