Originally Posted by MikeMcGuire
No, you indicated H&W were more common than the M70.


Not at all., What I tried to say was you want
to exclude limited production H&W rifles ,
but want to include limited production
Safari express rifles from Winchester.


Originally Posted by MikeMcGuire


As to Safari hunters I am not talking about what they
can afford but what they use. ...

Because that is where things happen.



DG hunting happens with anything from beat up
old pre64s and push-feeds to H&H Royal Doubles.

Someone who can afford a Royal double could
consider a $33k Echols Classic a poor man's
choice...those who can afford $15k Legend
might see M70 Express a poor man's choice.

Or if a person is pressed for dollars try and find
a used Sako Fibreclass or other Sako .375 not
in the Express rifle premium price category.

Originally Posted by MikeMcGuire

You can argue all day long about H&W etc. but in the real everyday world the 375 is on a different ladder to the 338. he 375 is at the bottom of one ladder and the 338 is the top rung of another ladder.


It depends which company you buy your rifles from.
Walk into H&H and other bespoke makers and all
bolt rifles are considered exclusive , Not just .375 up
and in the real everyday world of hunting rifles
not many own higher price African Express rifles
no matter which brand you go.

And the real everyday day world for wealthy folk
is different to non wealthy folk..British Royals are
raised with royal warrant Purdeys and H&H and
live their whole life with such - and it's a perfectly
normal everyday thing to them.


Originally Posted by MikeMcGuire
In a nutshell what the
companies like Winchester, Kimber, Ruger and
Weatherby know is a 375 will simply command
a higher price than a 338 ..


Originally Posted by MikeMcGuire
As a side note I reckon Winchester could bring out a 300 H&H matching their 375 including open sights and sell if for the same price..


Well that doesnt make sense.

You say companies know .375 will command
higher price than .338 and below ..then claim
said companies could command same price
for .300 as 375.

Reality is a number of companies have been
commanding about same price for .375 and below
for a considerable number of years already.
Whether it's a std. Sako or some bespoke brand.



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