Magnum Bob,
Yes, that is when I got it. Ordered it as soon as I got back from the trip. I already had a 50 and a 45 2⁷/⁸, so the 45-70 seemed the way to go. Easy to load for and shoot, and a nice hunting gun.

Bill got me started on the 457125 Lyman Gov. bullet cast 30-1. I ended up shooting an upsized copy of that bullet in my 50, weighing 700 grains.

Then he got me started on paperpatch. I see a pattern here? Lol

On the trip I was on with Bill, he had some Lyman Gov bullets, some paperpatch weighing just over 500 grains, and the 457121 weighing 480 ish? He wanted to compare performance of the different bullets on game.

Manny