It's always best to ask why the contact or attempt to arrest was made in the 1st place.

Remember Waco? Remember Ruby Ridge? Do a google search and see how many dozens of pages you can find where cops were in the wrong to some extent, all the way to 100% There are literally hundreds of them, or even thousands of them.

A barricaded man is not always a bad man and a cop is not always a good man.

When cops were more dedicated to their Oath of office we saw less of this kind of thing, but today most cops will get rough with you if you don't want to wear a surrender flag on you face and if you dare to stand for the Constitution yourself, many cops (thankfully not all) will do anything they can to "manufacture a crime".

. I think we need to know about the events leading up to this tragedy, but make NO decisions before we know why the arrest or contact.

Could be anything from dedicated cop-hating criminals just wanting to kill cops, to criminals willing to fight to Cops operating at the extreme edge of their constitutional power to cop just wanting to have an adventure at a citizens expense. Odds are this is a case of Cops VS Bad guys, but we can't assume that is true until we know more.

Last edited by szihn; 07/15/21.