After spending 25 years owning and hunting some of the best property in SE Iowa, and then retiring down south, I see where you are coming from. I lost the Trophy Whitetail craze some years ago and I went at it as hard as anyone. Now I shoot dinks and does for the freezer. A buddy of mine raises deer in Indiana and supplies a few places in Ohio with his deer. 2 good preserves are Rocky Fork Whitetails and Starkey Hollow in Ohio. As far as these guys talking about " what Satisfaction will you get from shooting a pen raised deer". Getting a raging hard on and pounding the hell out of some babe, that's Satisfaction. Get your checkbook out and go blast one.