Originally Posted by Mule Deer
kwg020,

I happened to make a somewhat inadvertent comparison of flash hole size a few month ago, when doing a lot of shooting with a CZ 527 in 6.5 Grendel, which typical of CZ rifles was quite accurate.

The first batch of brass I could find was Norma, which proved to be quite consistent in dimensions. Worked up a bunch of loads--and then came across a batch of Starline brass, so bought it too, which also proved to very consistent dimensionally, with one exception. It turned out the Norma brass had standard small primer flash holes, and the Starline had large rifle flash holes. (Both had small primer pockets.) All the flash holes were well centered.

So I retried three of the loads worked up with the Norma brass in Starline brass. There wasn't a consistent difference in accuracy--in two loads the Norma-brass loads shot more accurately, and in the other the Starline-brass load did.

The weight of both brands of brass averaged almost exactly the same. For 10 randomly selected case (all trimmed to the same length), the Norma brass averaged 111.1 grains, varying .6 grain. The Starline brass averaged 110.9 grains, varying .5 grain.

Despite the difference in flash hole size, muzzle velocity was for all practical purposes identical. Same deal as with the accuracy--in two loads the Norma brass averaged "faster," by 7 fps and 5 fps. In the third the Starline brass was 8 fps faster. This is less variation than the SAME load often chronographs in different strings during the same range session.


Now now MD don’t go throwing in actual velocity difference in the mix. But as usual you brought actual documentation into the mix. 😁
This takes me back to my original problem with this whole thing. He has no base line of where he was to compare against where he went.
Accuracy can be very finicky. One day you are printing tiny groups and the next not so tiny. Maybe your head isn’t in it or maybe you just aren’t reading the conditions as well as the day before. To say that I drilled out the flash hole to this size and got a micro group size doesn’t say a thing. Especially when that could have been a fluke. Did the flash ole cause the ES/SD to drop dramatically, did velocity go up or down that could have put him into a node? Did he use that exact same brass on each step? Too damn many variables are left out to draw a firm conclusion.

Either way without some control set or baseline to validate what the changes did or didn’t do, makes the whole thing as Willy nilly play time.



Swifty