I ran into the younger Wisner family and their stuff on a gunshow table. They changed a Ruger red label 20 gauge into an over under big game rifle for a lady in the family.

Since then I have corresponded with old Leroy Wisner about a Savage 340. That guy is really smart. I would infer from this that the red label is a good design,


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The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps