The distance may have been closer than 30ft. I was 50 yds from the edge of a clear cut(2 yrs old). The buck came from the timber behind me, and was shielded by 2 small pine trees. The 1st opening was at about 30 ft. It was now or never because he was starting to figure out he wasn't alone. BTW, in front of me I could have easily had a shot out to 300 yds or so. The 264 works up close too. It wasn't as messy as I thought it was going to be.Good hunting to you in MN this year