Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by drop_point
The Ukrainian constitution doesn't have provisions for secession through popular vote. De-nuclearization is the only reason the US is involved. I'd prefer we weren't. And you KNOW the United States is responsible? Can you please show me the evidence that convinced you of that?
Who the hell else has motive and means? Russia is going to cut off the means to deliver gas when that is the knife it holds over Western Europe? Russia did this when we are going into winter and he would be able to exchange gas for gold?

A western European nation that is facing winter without gas would cut off their access to gas?

Now we get to the Vichy government of the USA which desperately wants to halt the ability of the Russians to furnish gas to Western Europe. The same USA that knows Western Europe will cave and make peace for gas come December and January. The same USA that has the equipment and huge motive to stop Russia's ability to move gas into Germany et al.

Who has motive and ability? There is only one choice.

Then most certainly there is proof of that somewhere. But at this point it is speculation.

Who else has the ability and the motive? As I said before, China. China has the west at a weak point and suspicion placed on the US all while Russia has lost easy transport of their goods into Germany, allowing for a surplus available to their other pipelines; thus China can command a lower price. Then, if Russia and the US are busy killing each other, they have cover to move into Taiwan. China grows stronger while NATO and Russia become weaker.


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