And to think all this time that I was under the impression that Ryon Scott was pretty dog gone knowledgable on guns, now I find out he doesn't even know that the .223 was designed to tumble! smile

Oh btw, the .223 bullets are NOT designed to tumble..Only the military metal case rounds tumble and they can't be depended on to do that, although they do from time to time. somebodys been reading the military guide to wounding the enemy, and like most gov. publications its wroght with ideology! smile