Roger: Oohh....that is sweet! Thanks for the pics! Guys, thanks to all for the responses,all very educational.....

Ray, I gotta keep recoil a bit under control....at my age I suffer few physical ailments but don't handle a bunch of recoil like I used to...shoulder issues are cropping up and I still shoot about anything I want,but enjoy hard kicking rifles less than I used to.....I have little experience with anything over 375 but handle that nicely.Unfortunately no one I know back here runs a 404 or similar rifle so I have no way to try one in advance.....

I would stay at the velocitiy levels Wildcatter recommends....just to keep things manageable.

Now that I have this good advice I am mad at myself for passing on a Winston Elrod rifle in 404 on the Classic action...it was a very nice rifle that I almost bought...but did not..

Roger that rifle looks perfect!




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.