My 450/400 with a 400gr Woodleigh at 2050fps out of my iron sighted Ruger #1 is very manageable; I fitted the stock with a 1" red Pachmayr decelerator that increased the LOP to 14".

I find that gun more pleasant to shoot than a 338 Win Mag I have that weighs the same; it really is a big, slow shove, unlike some big bores which are big, slow kicks in the a**!! grin