I killed a doe on January 2nd. I was sitting in a swamp with a JP ar-15 loaded with Q3131 she stopped at 80 yards. I put the chevron on her shoulder at the shot she dropped. The trauma was devastating, first deer I had shot with a .223. I have a pic of the offside shoulder, it's amazing what a little bullet can do. I had some barnes vor-tx loaded up in my truck but I grabbed the wrong loads.