You guys are funny.

I have one. Great dogs. Points, listens, retrieves and I have NEVER lost him.

I have had Setters and will have one again, but with a growing family, limited time, and having to jump on an opportunity to hunt upland and water at any given moment my pointing lab was just the ticket. And it was too much for me to go to a flusher.

Mine is from Black Forest and I would say that the PL kennels are doing well. The PL version has probably just leveled off from the intial hype, that all.