At present I'm loading the 168g Amax with 49g of R17; 2820fps in a 26 inch barrel. 49.5 gave 2890fps but I backed off. From memory I think about 50g is the max in the Alliant book. Its running around 0.75moa for three shot groups and I'm not much of a bench shooter.

To answer your question Jerry, no I would normally go no slower than Varget but as I saw one of the guys on here (maybe Montana Marine) getting rave results with R17 I thought I'd try it.

Going to try R17 with some 155g bullets next. It *may* be a little slow for those weights but we'll see.