I do have one success story with the accubond. I shot at a doe one evening a few years ago and she didn't react. Then the group of 10 or so does started to get nervous and move around some. I was like "huh", so I picked out another doe and shot...guess what I found on my way to retrieve the second doe? The first one!! They were both hit clean through the lungs. My buddy watched the whole thing and we both thought I missed the first time. Wasting your "A" tag on a doe sucks, let me tell ya! Again, this was right around 100 yards with the same rifle/load. Both bullets exited.