Originally Posted by high_country_
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by high_country_
Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by high_country_
I absolutely understand.I don't believe in abortion myself, but more than not believing in abortion I believe in minding my own life.

Lots of Christians like to play god. They apparently lack faith that God will be the judge.


So, you'd rather other play God instead? The only people playing God are those killing children without just cause. Once you figure that out, you'll be ahead of the game.


I'd rather let people choose their own fate. I don't have to sleep with knowing that I killed a fetus nor knowing that I brought a baby with known life threatening problems into the world. .....nor anywhere in between. Site your verses that tell you to be the one who judoes when your neighbor should be unable to make choices, or the one that says you should judge when others make choices.

It's a fundamentalist thing, much like Muslims, they feel the world must conform to their beliefs or suffer.


Great. So, when does the child get to determine their own fate? It's not a fundamentalist thing; it's a logical and consistent thing. The parents made a host of choices that led to the pregnancy. Any one of those choices prior could have prevented it. Once it happens, it's a human life. There is no legal, logical, or rational reason to kill another human without just cause - and inconvenience isn't a just cause.


You got defensive and forgot to answer my question.

Furthermore, don't confuse my stance ad defending abortion, I don't defend it. What I'm defending is the right for an American to make choices regarding their own fate. If we force our decisions upon others, or take the rights to make difficult choices from others because we don't feel it's right we continue to stay divided as a nation.

I don't like a lot of people's choices, but I don't have to. ....they're not my choices to live with.


What question was overlooked? The request to "cite verses"? Please show me where I've made a religious argument in opposition to abortion, and your request becomes relevant. You cannot, because I have not.

Also, once you admit that the child is a person, and therefore ought to have the same rights, the rest of your position becomes extremely difficult to defend as it is self-conflicting.

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.