Originally Posted by okie john
Originally Posted by Gojoe
Originally Posted by okie john
Here's one with Nobel Sport Tubal Vectan 7000, which is a lot like 4350. I emailed Barnes and Nosler looking for data but neither have done any work with it yet, so I used data from

https://www.grafs.com/uploads/technical-resource-pdf-file/20.pdf

and

https://www.lhs-germany.de/en/powder/smokeless-powder/vectan/tubal-7000/

This data seems pretty conservative but I'm getting a solid 2,700 fps with the max charge in a couple of 30-06s with 180-grain bullets. Still working on accuracy. Right now it's holding 1.25 MOA in two rifles using the Hornady 180-grain boat-tail.


Okie John

I also bought some TU-7000, I wonder what data you finally settled on?
I used 56 grains under a 180-grain Hornady flat-based spitzer for about 2,689 fps. That combination is about as old-school as you can go while still using smokeless powder but I killed a smallish black bear with it with one shot at 353 yards.

I'd buy more of that powder if I could find it. I used a max load and I'd really like to find data that pushes it harder than I did, but all of the data I could find was pretty conservative.


Okie John

Years ago I got a deal on a case of RWS uniclassic 180 grain. After buying TU7000, I pulled one of the RWS bullets and weighted the charge. It was 54.5 grains of an unknown powder that to my eye looked like TU7000.
I then worked up a load with tu7000 and stopped at 55 grains with a Federal fusion 180 grain so flat base with cannulure. The point of impact was the same as the uniclassic, accuracy is around an inch.

I still have 2 cans left and I'll try to use them with a round nose Sierra or Hornady once they come back. But I'm in agreement, if it becomes available again I'll buy more.

Last edited by Gojoe; 05/27/22.

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