I think this thread has changed directions, But here goes. I was told that you couldn't kill deer with a 308 because the bullets just fell out of the end of the barrel, and a 300 h&h was the best deer caliber because all you have to do is point it in the general direction. I heard these stories from other young hunters when I was in middle school.

"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes."