bsa, you are right about the Nosler seconds.. Several years ago, I spend some time in Ore.. Went to Bend several trips and picked up quite a few seconds... But so far haven't shot them at big game.. If I am doing something serious on big animals or trophy game that is stout, then for me the price even at Wyo. prices is worth it.. At present I probably have more Noslers, Sierra and Hornady bullets than I have time left to shoot 'em.. But my friends will enjoy them..
